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Lylia Li's avatar

This tension fascinates me:

- Artist pays (manufacturers, resource suppliers) to create their own work

- How do we understand this economically or within the familiar framework of capitalism?

- The artist invests in their art, the same way VCs invest in a product?

- The difference is that the art is not held to the same standards as a product (for eg to generate profit or to scale)

- Another crucial difference is that product ideas need to be backed up by some sort of persuasive quantitative reasoning for why it might be profitable

- What's the line between art work (which has no value monetarily) and creative work (which does)?

Elizabeth Ü's avatar

If we re-framed this question outside of the binary, might we end up having juicier conversations? A wider variety of creative responses?

Some open questions that come to mind: How many different relationships can we imagine between Artists and people who Enjoy Art, or who Want Art and Artists to Exist? Which of those relationships already exist (in visible, accessible structures that most people can understand)? How many more COULD exist? Which do we want to make Easier? What are some ways to do that?

Yes, the widely-held assumption that artists should just make art out of the goodness of their hearts while everyone else gets paid is super annoying. I've also seen the wish that artists *could* be paid for their work turn into an unfortunate judgment of artists who choose (for whatever reasons) to give their art away.

I'd like to see more choices for artists / the people who enjoy art / the people who contribute to art being made and published and distributed / the people who commission art / the people who want art to exist / (etc etc etc) when it comes to financial relationships and transactions. This is why I'm excited about Artist Corporations; it's one kind of structural answer that has the potential to make things better for certain types of artists, and certain types of people who want them to succeed.

And: we all stand to gain by widening our understanding of the many ways to participate with reciprocity in a realm that many experience as more spiritual than transactional.

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